OH, GOD!!! HATE YOU, SUNSHINE!

Problems/issues, suggestions, complimentory remarks, questions, etc.

OH, GOD!!! HATE YOU, SUNSHINE!

Postby Otaku on Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:53 am

I just found out my JHS is switching over to the Sunshine series next year.

I recently read through all the new textbooks coming out next year (for Englipedia) and took notes on them. Sunshine was one of the series that I thought sucked balls! Who is making these decisions?!?! If the person who made that decision is reading this, please quit your job and go to an English-speaking country and LEARN MEXTing ENGLISH!!! Oh wait, you wouldn't be able to read this post CUZ YOU CAN'T MEXTing UNDERSTAND ENGLISH!!! ...otherwise, you'd realize that particular textbook MEXTing sucks!

SUNSHINE SUCKS BALLS! The Chinese professor who headed up the series needs to be shot as well! The series is a classic brainwashing session. There's a story about "We Japanese loves dolphins so much!" ...hello??!?! TAIJI!!!! Die MEXTing Chinese professor writing an English textbook, die!!!

/rant
Last edited by Otaku on Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:37 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Otaku
Posting God!
 
Posts: 4294
Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:39 pm
Location: Mt. Fuji
Highscores: 42
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)
Karma: 77

Re: OH, GOD!!!

Postby jeisensei on Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:45 am

Hear. Hear

I don't know about the new text books, but I am teaching a student on the side that uses the old Sunshine and it is messed up. There is no logical flow to the grammar and the way the book is put together. I was hoping that the newer one would be better, but by Otaku's reaction it is not.
User avatar
jeisensei
Golden Ninja!
 
Posts: 1020
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:14 pm
Location: The head of the "flying crane"
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)
Karma: 18

Re: OH, GOD!!!

Postby Richard_Benoit on Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:14 pm

Actually Otaku Taiji in an anomaly! ;) And we all know life is full of anomalies. The truth is most Japanese love dolphins, but are
a)unaware b) purposefully ignorant c) feign ignorance.

Maybe put that in the textbook!
User avatar
Richard_Benoit
Englipedia Drone
Posting God!
 
Posts: 2418
Joined: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:22 pm
Gender: Male
Karma: 33

Re: OH, GOD!!!

Postby Otaku on Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:44 pm

If they can put the following words in the new Sunshine series, I don't see why they can't include "unaware, purposeful and feign" words, too:

"ch’ima chogori, Moray Firth, Flash CDC7, Kachina doll, Moomin World, Rovaniemi, Laputa, Nangasac (Nagasaki), Xamoschi (Kannanzaki), tadpole, Sergio Benitez, CO2, child psychology, Choju-giga, temae, chashitsu, kakemono, tokonoma, wa-kei-sei-jaku, matcha, chado, takoyaki, kimono, wasshoi, tatami, ichigo-ichie, tokan-ya, wara-deppo, Jatariuc, fossil fuels, greenhouse gases, UNESCO," and last but not least, "otaku."
User avatar
Otaku
Posting God!
 
Posts: 4294
Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:39 pm
Location: Mt. Fuji
Highscores: 42
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)
Karma: 77

Re: OH, GOD!!!

Postby azuhl on Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:48 pm

I refer to it as 'our abortion book'. It's awful.
azuhl
Lt.
Posting Rank: Level 46
 
Posts: 675
Joined: Wed May 18, 2011 8:40 am
Location: Saitama
Gender: Male
Country: United Kingdom (uk)
Karma: 10

Re: OH, GOD!!!

Postby Richard_Benoit on Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:48 pm

:shoothead:
User avatar
Richard_Benoit
Englipedia Drone
Posting God!
 
Posts: 2418
Joined: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:22 pm
Gender: Male
Karma: 33

Re: OH, GOD!!!

Postby moolooman on Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:45 am

All this anger is upsetting the calm I feel since I only have two working days this week. And a whole lot of rugby to watch. I shall have to avoid this particular thread so as to enhance my calm.
User avatar
moolooman
Posting God!
 
Posts: 2260
Joined: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:56 pm
Location: Not in the Japanese public education system.
Gender: Male
Country: New Zealand (nz)
Karma: 66

Re: OH, GOD!!!

Postby Otaku on Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:16 am

...until your rugby team loses. Then where will your calm be at? LOL!
User avatar
Otaku
Posting God!
 
Posts: 4294
Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:39 pm
Location: Mt. Fuji
Highscores: 42
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)
Karma: 77

Re: OH, GOD!!!

Postby moolooman on Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:42 am

User avatar
moolooman
Posting God!
 
Posts: 2260
Joined: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:56 pm
Location: Not in the Japanese public education system.
Gender: Male
Country: New Zealand (nz)
Karma: 66

Re: OH, GOD!!!

Postby Paul on Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:31 am

moolooman wrote:All this anger is upsetting the calm I feel since I only have two working days this week. And a whole lot of rugby to watch. I shall have to avoid this particular thread so as to enhance my calm.


I have two actually class days this week.

I have three actual class days next week.

I have four actual class days the following week.

AND for the kicker, I only have 1 class day the week after that.

So for the next four calendar weeks, including this week, I will have 9 days of work out of 29. Heheheheeee........ :thumbsup:

BUT I unfortunately have no money to spend and will end up sitting on my thumbs maybe. :die:
User avatar
Paul
Posting God!
 
Posts: 3614
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:20 pm
Highscores: 1
Gender: Male
Karma: 67

Re: OH, GOD!!!

Postby moolooman on Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:34 am

Nice. Now help me find my picture of a room as outlined in my other thread.
User avatar
moolooman
Posting God!
 
Posts: 2260
Joined: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:56 pm
Location: Not in the Japanese public education system.
Gender: Male
Country: New Zealand (nz)
Karma: 66

Re: OH, GOD!!!

Postby gsuiris on Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:00 am

My BOE is switching to Sunshine too. I think they said it is cheaper.....
gsuiris
Posting Rank: Level 12
 
Posts: 170
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:19 am
Gender: Female
Karma: 13

Re: OH, GOD!!!

Postby Paul on Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:11 am

gsuiris wrote:My BOE is switching to Sunshine too. I think they said it is cheaper.....


You know textbooks here are subsidized by the government, kids get them for free in public schools, so I wonder if the company pushing the Sunshine book is giving discounts to your district for using them.

In my district all the schools use the same English textbooks, 27 or so different JHS's, and according to one JTE, they rotate textbooks with different publishers of course, to keep them all in business.

Oh and where I am at as well instituting a new textbook series takes 3 years, next year only the 1st year kids get the new one's and the returning students, 2nd and 3rd year, keep the old one's, for here that means New Horizon vs Total English. Usually here as well textbooks are rotated every 5 years.

I actually feel sorry for the teachers that have to teach more than one grade and have to use two different textbooks to teach their classes. At least with the same series it's easier to follow along.
Last edited by Paul on Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:14 am, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
Paul
Posting God!
 
Posts: 3614
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:20 pm
Highscores: 1
Gender: Male
Karma: 67

Re: OH, GOD!!!

Postby gsuiris on Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:20 am

Paul wrote:You know textbooks here are subsidized by the government, kids get them for free in public schools, so I wonder if the company pushing the Sunshine book is giving discounts to your district for using them.

In my district all the schools use the same English textbooks, 27 or so different JHS's, and according to one JTE, they rotate textbooks with different publishers of course, to keep them all in business.

Oh and where I am at as well instituting a new textbook series takes 3 years, next year only the 1st year kids get the new one's and the returning students, 2nd and 3rd year, keep the old one's, for here that means New Horizon vs Total English. Usually here as well textbooks are rotated every 5 years.

I actually feel sorry for the teachers that have to teach more than one grade and have to use two different textbooks to teach their classes. At least with the same series it's easier to follow along.


My teacher was complaining about Sunshine, and told another teacher they were cheaper. So.... I don't know what that means. I guess they are giving some kind of discount then.

I don't know if they will replace all of the textbooks, or if there will be a mix like at your school. It would be confusing to have a mix, but I think it would confuse the students to change. I haven't actually looked at the books to see if the grammar points match up.
gsuiris
Posting Rank: Level 12
 
Posts: 170
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:19 am
Gender: Female
Karma: 13

Re: OH, GOD!!! HATE YOU, SUNSHINE!

Postby azuhl on Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:51 pm

Hey, guys. Sunshine 3, page 47 after the writing task.

What the (self-editing for swearing) is that all about?
"I'm sorry to be late."
"That's OK. Is anything wrong with you?"
'Yes, I'm physically incapable of continuing this conversation with you because you're a massive douche.'

I added that last bit, ofc, but since when is asking 'Is anything wrong with you' an acceptable form of follow-on greeting. I can see it being used when there has been an accident or situation that may have medical issues. This book is awful.
azuhl
Lt.
Posting Rank: Level 46
 
Posts: 675
Joined: Wed May 18, 2011 8:40 am
Location: Saitama
Gender: Male
Country: United Kingdom (uk)
Karma: 10

Re: OH, GOD!!! HATE YOU, SUNSHINE!

Postby Otaku on Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:31 pm

Don't even get me started on the actual text used in these pieces of crap! It's actually in the text: "Yes, let's." I wanted to blow my head with a shotgun when I read that, but then the text started getting comical.

A: "We sometimes sold food, but we often stood at the door to welcome customers. We said loudly, ‘irashhai-mase’."
B: "Did you learn anything?"
A: "Yes. Greetings open the door to good communication.”

Someone please explain to me how randomly shouting that obnoxious phrase “irasshai-mase” whenever a customer passes by opens the way for good communication?

“Irasshai-mase!” <-- Good communication!
“Irasshai-mase!” <-- Nice communication!
“Irasshai-mase!” <-- You have wonderful communication!
“Irasshai-mase!” <-- Great communication!
“Irasshai-mase!” <-- Aren' we great communicaters?

“Irasshai-mase!” <-- SHUT THE MEXT UP ALREADY, YOU VERBAL MASTURBATOR!!!

Back in the real world, this phrase pisses me off to no end and I wanna mushroom stamp the MEXTer who says it to me. ESPECIALLY when they say it at the top of their lungs right into your ear and the rest of the borg zombies in the store hear it and echo the phrase. It's like a verbal nuclear bomb going off in my head.
Last edited by Otaku on Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Otaku
Posting God!
 
Posts: 4294
Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:39 pm
Location: Mt. Fuji
Highscores: 42
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)
Karma: 77

Re: OH, GOD!!! HATE YOU, SUNSHINE!

Postby Paul on Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:51 pm

Hey Otaku



Irashai........!

Last edited by Paul on Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:56 pm, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
Paul
Posting God!
 
Posts: 3614
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:20 pm
Highscores: 1
Gender: Male
Karma: 67

Re: OH, GOD!!! HATE YOU, SUNSHINE!

Postby jeisensei on Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:55 pm

I am not feeling the love out of this post any more :shoothead:
User avatar
jeisensei
Golden Ninja!
 
Posts: 1020
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:14 pm
Location: The head of the "flying crane"
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)
Karma: 18

Re: OH, GOD!!! HATE YOU, SUNSHINE!

Postby sum1wholikesengliped on Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:51 am

I'm so glad I don't have to teach CRAPSHINE.
User avatar
sum1wholikesengliped
Posting Rank: Level 8
 
Posts: 108
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:11 pm
Gender: None specified
Country: United States Minor Outlying Islands (um)
Karma: 1

Re: OH, GOD!!! HATE YOU, SUNSHINE!

Postby Otaku on Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:58 am

sum1wholikesengliped wrote:I'm so glad I don't have to teach CRAPSHINE.


What a perfect name for the new textbook images...
User avatar
Otaku
Posting God!
 
Posts: 4294
Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:39 pm
Location: Mt. Fuji
Highscores: 42
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)
Karma: 77

Re: OH, GOD!!! HATE YOU, SUNSHINE!

Postby peet on Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:49 am

AHHHH! :freaked:

I got to work and found a set of Sunshine textbooks ... on my desk!

Hoping it's just a promotional set from one of the textbook sales reps; those end up on my desk sometimes too.
peet
Posting Rank: Level 18
 
Posts: 260
Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:53 am
Gender: None specified
Karma: 16

Re: OH, GOD!!! HATE YOU, SUNSHINE!

Postby Otaku on Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:34 am

mwahaha!!! (inserts evil laugh smiley)
User avatar
Otaku
Posting God!
 
Posts: 4294
Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:39 pm
Location: Mt. Fuji
Highscores: 42
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)
Karma: 77

Re: OH, GOD!!! HATE YOU, SUNSHINE!

Postby himitsu on Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:28 am

Apparently we are gonna use "total English" next year. Any experience with that?
himitsu
Posting Rank: Level 38
 
Posts: 559
Joined: Mon May 23, 2011 10:09 am
Gender: Male
Karma: 4

Re: OH, GOD!!! HATE YOU, SUNSHINE!

Postby jeisensei on Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:55 am

I used Total when I was in Niigata. It is much like any other English textbook in Japan. Though I liked the set up better than New Horizon and the way the subject matter was presented was more intuitive IMHO. Either way they are both better than Sunshine.
User avatar
jeisensei
Golden Ninja!
 
Posts: 1020
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:14 pm
Location: The head of the "flying crane"
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)
Karma: 18

Re: OH, GOD!!! HATE YOU, SUNSHINE!

Postby peet on Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:39 pm

peet wrote:I got to work and found a set of Sunshine textbooks ... on my desk!


Follow up:
JTE says she thinks our whole city is switching to Sunshine, the BOE decided and she/teachers have no say in the matter.

.. ballz
peet
Posting Rank: Level 18
 
Posts: 260
Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:53 am
Gender: None specified
Karma: 16

Re: OH, GOD!!! HATE YOU, SUNSHINE!

Postby Paul on Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:45 pm

That's interesting, BOE making the decisions on textbooks without any teacher input.
User avatar
Paul
Posting God!
 
Posts: 3614
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:20 pm
Highscores: 1
Gender: Male
Karma: 67

Re: OH, GOD!!! HATE YOU, SUNSHINE!

Postby peet on Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:06 pm

Or they had a teachers meeting and she skipped out on it (I wouldn't put it past her).

But either way, I feel bad for a lot of the teachers who will have to re-structure all their teaching points, worksheets, etc.. I'm used to making mine on the fly already, but a lot of those teachers are pretty set in their ways.
peet
Posting Rank: Level 18
 
Posts: 260
Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:53 am
Gender: None specified
Karma: 16

Re: OH, GOD!!! HATE YOU, SUNSHINE!

Postby Paul on Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:31 pm

What's worse is that all the new textbooks are getting a huge boost in vocabulary, and it's going to make it harder on the teachers planning as well. Here they are actually starting from scratch on making the accompanying notebooks. Hopefully some of "us" alt's are going to get a chance to peruse them before publishing them.
User avatar
Paul
Posting God!
 
Posts: 3614
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:20 pm
Highscores: 1
Gender: Male
Karma: 67

Re: OH, GOD!!! HATE YOU, SUNSHINE!

Postby Richard_Benoit on Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:43 pm

What's going on? I got an unconfirmed report that my area is changing away from New Horizon too. I know we bag on it constantly, but c'mon the alternatives books are more like WMDs by comparison! We're all goonna die mannnn!
User avatar
Richard_Benoit
Englipedia Drone
Posting God!
 
Posts: 2418
Joined: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:22 pm
Gender: Male
Karma: 33

Re: OH, GOD!!! HATE YOU, SUNSHINE!

Postby mangakk on Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:33 pm

I have a bad feeling about this.
User avatar
mangakk
Posting Rank: Level 24
 
Posts: 359
Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 3:36 pm
Gender: None specified
Karma: 7

Next


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest