SF CARTOONIST HAND - the new cool font

[Otaku]

Out with COMIC SANS, in with CARTOONIST HAND.

I've attached a copy of the font. Here's how you install it onto your computer. It's really simple:

Open up CONTROL PANEL, then FONTS (フォント) and drop in the file. Viola!! You can start using that font in any program on your computer where you can change fonts.

[jessen100]

i hate comic sans, its so ugly. i use some other one.

[junkdna]

you know, a lot of folks hate COMIC SANS and I have no idea why. i think it started as someone's dislike and that dislike simply took on a life of its own, becoming a meme. so now EVERYONE says they hate it. i have no idea why. it's a fine font.

that's not to say that jessen100's dislike is not genuine, i just happen to run into a lot of folks who say they hate it, but don't give a logical reason i can understand.

[Otaku]

Logically speaking, Comic Sans is a good font because it looks the most similar to how people actually write the alphabet. The only letter I don't like is the uppercase Y. It looks like a big lowercase y.

[jessen100]

i use century gothic, it is clearly a font from a computer, but but resembles written letters as well, as far as "a"s go anyways. if someone wrote perfectly, that is how they would write imo.

and i assure you that my dislike is genuine. and everyone hates it because its ugly. does that make us superficial? maybe. but a fonts sole purpose is to look good, or bad if your going for a comic sans look, but i prefer good. that being said, i think such dislike is warranted.

[Otaku]

Okay, because I'm bored at work...

When I was writing this thread, I didn't think we would be discussing fonts, but LET'S! I would dare argue that Comic Sans looks more natural and looks like someone actually wrote the letters, versus typing it out on the computer. For example, Comic Sans writes the horizontal strokes at a little bit of an angle, while Century Gothic writes them perfectly horizontal. In real life, very few people write their letters' strokes perfectly horizontally.

Century Gothic is good, too. Here's are my opinions about CG:
-- Uppercase I: It doesn't the horizontal cross bars on it. I think it needs it to differentiate itself from the lowercase L.
-- Uppercase R: I don't like how the final stroke on the R is a separate stroke. I'm probably in the minority on this, since the R is normally taught with the last stroke starting in the middle of its loop, but I write the R in two strokes...not three.
-- Uppercase Y: To be unbiased, I like Century Gothic's uppercase Y better Comic Sans.
-- Lowercase A: Plainly speaking, very few people write their A's like a C followed with a vertical line. That is to say, except the WYSIWYG Japanese students...
-- Lowercase B: I don't like how CG's lowercase B leaves a little tail at the bottom. When I write a lowercase B, I connect the bottom-half of the loop with the bottom-part of the vertical line.
-- Lowercase F: I think the vertical line of the lowercase F is too high up on its vertical counterpart.
-- Lowercase H: I think the upper-tail is too short.
-- Lowercase J: I think the lower-tail doesn't wrap around enough.
-- Lowercase R: I think the curve doesn't curve enough. I'm not saying it's CG's fault, but it is one of the fonts that doesn't bend its lowercase R enough. I think this is part of the problem that has a lot of JHS students writing their R's looking like V's.

[Meat]

-- Uppercase R: I don't like how the final stroke on the R is a separate stroke. I'm probably in the minority on this, since the R is normally taught with the last stroke starting in the middle of its loop, but I write the R in two strokes...not three.

Is it wrong then to write the R with only one stroke?

-- Uppercase Y: To be unbiased, I like Century Gothic's uppercase Y better Comic Sans.
-- Lowercase A: Plainly speaking, very few people write their A's like a C followed with a vertical line. That is to say, except the WYSIWYG Japanese students...

Most of my student's a's don't look like a's anyway.

-- Lowercase R: I think the curve doesn't curve enough. I'm not saying it's CG's fault, but it is one of the fonts that doesn't bend its lowercase R enough. I think this is part of the problem that has a lot of JHS students writing their R's looking like V's.

Good god that's annoying.

[jessen100]

first of all, wow.

and my opinion of your opinion

-- Uppercase L: It doesn't the horizontal cross bars on it. I think it needs it to differentiate itself from the lowercase L.

look again?

-- Uppercase R: I don't like how the final stroke on the R is a separate stroke. I'm probably in the minority on this, since the R is normally taught with the last stroke starting in the middle of its loop, but I write the R in two strokes...not three.
-- Uppercase Y: To be unbiased, I like Century Gothic's uppercase Y better Comic Sans.
-- Lowercase A: Plainly speaking, very few people write their A's like a C followed with a vertical line. That is to say, except the WYSIWYG Japanese students...
-- Lowercase B: I don't like how CG's lowercase B leaves a little tail at the bottom. When I write a lowercase B, I connect the bottom-half of the loop with the bottom-part of the vertical line. (jessen100 doesnt)
-- Lowercase F: I think the vertical line of the lowercase F is too high up on its vertical counterpart.
-- Lowercase H: I think the upper-tail is too short.
-- Lowercase J: I think the lower-tail doesn't wrap around enough.

this is absurd.

-- Lowercase R: I think the curve doesn't curve enough. I'm not saying it's CG's fault, but it is one of the fonts that doesn't bend its lowercase R enough. I think this is part of the problem that has a lot of JHS students writing their R's looking like V's.

i agree with this now that you mention it.

[Otaku]

I hate when I'm all up the middle of making a huge point, only to make a simple mistake.

I didn't mean UPPERCASE L, I meant UPPERCASE I. Doh!

And, what do you mean by 'absurd'? You mean I'm full of bull$hit or that I put too much time into thinking about fonts?

One last thing, I think the tail on the LOWERCASE H needs to have a long tail because if it has a medium or short one, it starts looking like a LOWERCASE N.

[junkdna]

i like Comic Sans cuz i get free cake.

[bum1]

"Uppercase L: It doesn't the horizontal cross bars on it. I think it needs it to differentiate itself from the lowercase L."

I am sure he meant uppercase I and I agree if that's the case.

I hate Comic SF because we are forced to use it by our BOE for events. I like Times New Roman.

[Otaku]

Nice idea for a quick money-maker. Make a program that allows you to pick and choose the font you want for each letter, upper and lowercase. Then, have it so you write in your customized alphabet when using Word.

[jessen100]

by absurd, i meant you are rediculously picky, lol. not full of sht obv. idk if id say too much thinking, but certainly much. but its a relatively important issue i guess.

i generally use this font pretty largely so its easier to differentiate these things. (such as short h tails and what not) the "I" issue, i suppose is legit, but i think ima stick with this font for now anyways i think.

you should toss a pic of that new font of yours in there too, so we can compare it as well.

[jessen100]

also dont have access to saving this font to the computer :(

i dont want to ask!

[Otaku]

I changed the example image I posted to include the CARTOONIST HAND.

I wouldn't say the average person even puts too much time into thinking about fonts. However, after a ton of hours with building a website, forum and editing 100's of worksheets, I start thinking about these types of things. Also, New Horizon uses an arrangement of fonts on their flashcards, which I think is a bad idea.

Thinking about the things the average person doesn't think about gives my brain a bit of break from the site.

Jessen, that sucks that you don't have access to the fonts file.

[junkdna]

i think fonts should come with explanation and i mean that in all joking aside. also, most commonly used fonts and extra fonts should be separated out menu-wise. there's no point to having fonts like dingbats and wingdings in with Arial, Verdana and the other top ten fonts. user-installed fonts should be in a THIRD menu. this sounds like it would be a bitch, but honestly, i think, with real thought, it could (and should) be done properly.

[hokkaido1]

you know, a lot of folks hate COMIC SANS and I have no idea why. i think it started as someone's dislike and that dislike simply took on a life of its own, becoming a meme. so now EVERYONE says they hate it. i have no idea why. it's a fine font.

Yes, I musy say I agree. They are all so similar, whats the big deal? I use COMIC SANS all the time

[junkdna]

good point. some fonts look so much like others they should be considered copyright infringements.

[hokkaido1]

If you want fonts check this site out

http://mintywhite.com/tech/category/fonts/

some really cool fonts here and all free, also excellent info on Vista and XP etc as well (free ebooks)