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Read Counter box

Postby Otaku on Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:35 pm

I think every page of the textbook should have a small box that is blank. Then, students could keep track of how many times they read the page. I think this would also be helpful to teachers to track how many times they are having the students read the pages.
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Re: Read Counter box

Postby regardo on Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:08 pm

you are such a moron, haha ;)
just whoop their asses everytime they finished reading it.
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Re: Read Counter box

Postby Paul on Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:49 pm

Otaku wrote:I think every page of the textbook should have a small box that is blank. Then, students could keep track of how many times they read the page. I think this would also be helpful to teachers to track how many times they are having the students read the pages.


Question here....what to do about the kids that just write a number in without actually reading it?

I have a problem with the "number of times" reading thing anyway, because if you actually stop and think about it the kids are not truly reading anything just sight recognizing different words on a page that their teacher told them to repeat, or maybe you and I did.

Get this, the reason I bring this up here is one time I was requested to do a reading test on a certain page of the textbook. I really screwed with the kids by taking the sentences from the page and rearranging them into a random order. I then gave the paper to each kid as they came out side the classroom to take their test. If I remember correctly here something like 1/3 of the kids read the sentences in the order that they were written in the textbook and not how they were arranged on the paper. Maybe 80% of the remainder of the kids could not read any of it. And the rest were fine.

The teacher to say the least was not happy with my little test. I reminded her that she gave me permission to run the test as I saw fit, needless to say it never occurred to her that I would pull something like that.

We both made out points, she became more appreciative of my help and advice in the classroom after that episode and I learned to respect the reasons why she was giving these tests in the first place. Not to actually see if the kids could read or not but to build up their confidence in talking in English in front of a real live and breathing gaijin!

PS; I actually thought for a day or so until I was able to talk to the teacher that I was going to get my ass fired for pulling off that stunt. Fortunately she was cool about it and to this day we still get a laugh out of talking about the looks on the kids faces when they saw the prepared sheet I made for the test. She admitted to me later as well that she wanted to kill me! If we both weren't married I am fairly certain that we would be together somehow.......damn I have no freaking idea why I wrote that? :oops: :D
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Re: Read Counter box

Postby Otaku on Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:55 pm

interesting post, Paul. this kind of reading test amazes me also. One JTE of mine thought she was clever because she gave me two cards and two pages in the textbook. The student chose a card at random and read that page in the textbook. The result? The kids just memorized two pages, instead of the normal one-page they usually memorized.

My thoughts the 'Reading Counter Box' would that the students would mark the box themselves each time they read the page. It wouldn't be counted into their grade; merely for the student to track their own progress. So, there would be no motivation for the student to cheat about how many times they read the page.

The only reason I thought about this 'box' to begin with is cuz' one of my JTEs now simply have the students keep track at the top of each of their pages. I just thought a box might keep their textbooks a tad bit more clean-looking.
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Re: Read Counter box

Postby Shamisen on Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:08 pm

An interesting idea.

Paul, Ive been pondering that subconsciously for some time now and you just said it!
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Re: Read Counter box

Postby bum1 on Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:10 pm

Paul wrote: If I remember correctly here something like 1/3 of the kids read the sentences in the order that they were written in the textbook and not how they were arranged on the paper. Maybe 80% of the remainder of the kids could not read any of it. And the rest were fine.[/i]


So 33.333333% read it as written in the text and 80% couldn't do it so -13.3333333% of the kids were fine. The negative of fine is NOT fine therefore 13.333333% of the kids were not fine which means no one just read what was there or maybe they read what was there but were not fine. So of the 80% of the people that couldn't do it only 13.333333% were not fine meaning that 66.666666% of them were fine even though they couldn't do it and 33.3333333% could do it in the order that they were written in the textbook which means that the 13.33333% of the kids who were able to read it as written in the test could not do it.
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Re: Read Counter box

Postby Paul on Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:49 pm

bum1 wrote:
Paul wrote: If I remember correctly here something like 1/3 of the kids read the sentences in the order that they were written in the textbook and not how they were arranged on the paper. Maybe 80% of the remainder of the kids could not read any of it. And the rest were fine.[/i]


So 33.333333% read it as written in the text and 80% couldn't do it so -13.3333333% of the kids were fine. The negative of fine is NOT fine therefore 13.333333% of the kids were not fine which means no one just read what was there or maybe they read what was there but were not fine. So of the 80% of the people that couldn't do it only 13.333333% were not fine meaning that 66.666666% of them were fine even though they couldn't do it and 33.3333333% could do it in the order that they were written in the textbook which means that the 13.33333% of the kids who were able to read it as written in the test could not do it.


Let me guess you were a math major right?

Sorry at 5:30 PM after a day a work and after popping my first adult beverage those numbers just kind of blur together.

Might be an age thing, I dont know, but I will constipate this one tomorrow. :kanpai: :munch:
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Re: Read Counter box

Postby bum1 on Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:01 am

Music composition major.
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Re: Read Counter box

Postby Paul on Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:09 am

bum1 wrote:Music composition major.


Go figure....... :kanpai:
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