ACTA Enacted

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ACTA Enacted

Postby Richard_Benoit on Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:29 am

What can we say, still no real disclosure.

But I guess that in itself is saying a lot about how laws tend to be enacted these days, by big business, and not a hint of democracy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement

In September 2008, a number of interest groups urged parties to the ACTA negotiations to disclose the language of the evolving agreement. In an open letter, the groups argued that: "Because the text of the treaty and relevant discussion documents remain secret, the public has no way of assessing whether and to what extent these and related concerns are merited." The interest groups included: the Consumers Union, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, Essential Action, IP Justice, Knowledge Ecology International, Public Knowledge, Global Trade Watch, the US Public Interest Research Group, IP Left (Korea), the Canadian Library Association, the Consumers Union of Japan, the National Consumer Council (UK) and the Doctors without Borders' Campaign for Essential Medicines.[23] The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) and Public Knowledge have filed a FOIA request which was denied.

Whatever all the above organizations want, it is usually in our best interest. I'm with them. Especially the Canadian Library Association ... hehe :dance:


I also enjoyed the reason for non-disclosure "national security risk". Seems like Big Brother uses that a lot since 911 to justify just about anything.

Big Brand names, and Big pharma arn't rich enough, let's go around the world and make everyone pay full price, and offer no alternatives to products ... The greed and audacity... think i'm gonna be sick again.
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And wait, this whole bill seems like it was made for a country like China...and they didn't want to sign..hmm wonder why? :?
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Re: ACTA Enacted

Postby Richard_Benoit on Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:00 pm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2012/jan/31/barack-obama-richard-odwyer-extradition

A taste of things to come? The shame. Go chase the real criminals.

War on Terror, War on Drugs, War on Copyright infringers, what's next War on Bad Weather? War on Anti Americanism (like that Israeli law) or War on Unions? (oh wait that's happening) how about War on War....yeah..how about that Mr. President?
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Re: ACTA Enacted

Postby Otaku on Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:09 pm

It makes me sick that the U.S. is trying to reach out beyond its borders rope in non-U.S. citizens and charge them with laws created for U.S. citizens.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that's just plain wrong.

How the MEXT are they getting away with stuff like that? Honestly, how?
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Re: ACTA Enacted

Postby Otaku on Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:10 pm

...and where is that Wikileaks guy now?

Is he going to emerge from prison 30 years from now only to become Australia's next Nelson Mandela?
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Re: ACTA Enacted

Postby Richard_Benoit on Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:27 pm

History repeating itself. Roman law for the "known world!" Do as we say...don't ask questions...
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Re: ACTA Enacted

Postby Otaku on Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:28 pm

Richard_Benoit wrote:Do as we say...don't ask questions...


...thought that was modern Japanese law? :whistle:
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Re: ACTA Enacted

Postby Richard_Benoit on Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:32 pm

No, no that one goes like this:

"Confess on camera, or we will lock you away in a small cubbord never to be seen again."

Or

"Don't tell us to turn our police sirens off, or we will punch your annoying kid, and crack your bike fender."
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Re: ACTA Enacted

Postby moolooman on Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:08 pm

Otaku wrote:...and where is that Wikileaks guy now?

Is he going to emerge from prison 30 years from now only to become Australia's next Nelson Mandela?


Hate to point this out, but the first Nelson Mandela wasn't from Australia.
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Re: ACTA Enacted

Postby jeisensei on Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:49 am

moolooman wrote:
Otaku wrote:...and where is that Wikileaks guy now?

Is he going to emerge from prison 30 years from now only to become Australia's next Nelson Mandela?


Hate to point this out, but the first Nelson Mandela wasn't from Australia.


South Africa == Australia :whistle:
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Re: ACTA Enacted

Postby Richard_Benoit on Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:35 am

That's why he said "Australian Nelson" because Julian is .. .. .. from New Zealand, don't you know anything Mooloo?
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Re: ACTA Enacted

Postby moolooman on Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:50 am

My point being the sentence should have read either "Australia's Nelson Mandela" or "the next Nelson Mandela". The sentence as it is implies that the first Nelson Mandela was from Australia.

And don't try and pin that Assange dickhead on New Zealand. We only turn our calibre chaps like Pete Bethune.
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