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orange and white lines

Postby Otaku on Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:48 am

Depending on what country you drive, people drive on the left/right hand side of the road...except China, where they drive anywhere there's pavement. ;)

Anyways, one thing that I've seen that's pretty standard are the white lines on the side of the road and the orange lines in the middle (no passing lines).

Question: Is there a country that uses different colors to chalk their roads?
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Re: orange and white lines

Postby lkelly2477 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:23 pm

No, theres no country with other colors. Its a international color scheme, that way people from other countries dont get confused. Just like the traffic light its red,yellow,green worldwide.
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Re: orange and white lines

Postby mangakk on Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:32 pm

Visit India..........
The rest will be explained by itself.
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Re: orange and white lines

Postby Paul on Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:22 pm

lkelly2477 wrote:No, theres no country with other colors. Its a international color scheme, that way people from other countries dont get confused. Just like the traffic light its red,yellow,green worldwide.


Except here in Japan the "green" light is called aoi or blue.
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Re: orange and white lines

Postby jessen100 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:11 pm

im farmilliar with the white ones, but what are these orange ones that you speak of? something new?
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Re: orange and white lines

Postby lkelly2477 on Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:30 pm

Oh yeah, I forgot Japan uses blue.

The orange line have been around for many years.

In the USA its called double yellow, its in the middle of the reoad to signify a no passing lane.

These are located worldwide but the meanings vary in different countries.
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Re: orange and white lines

Postby Otaku on Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:06 pm

hhmmm...I regularly see orange lines here in Japan, too.
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Re: orange and white lines

Postby GETAK on Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:43 am

Are you kidding!?

They call it "ao" but they really mean "midori." Even my wife's grandmother knows it's all a scam. She occasionally questions the convention of calling the conspicuously green light "aoi."
Furthermore, do you know "Aojiru?" It's a GREEN powder you can put into water or milk.
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Re: orange and white lines

Postby TENGU on Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:08 pm

GETAK wrote:Are you kidding!?

They call it "ao" but they really mean "midori." Even my wife's grandmother knows it's all a scam. She occasionally questions the convention of calling the conspicuously green light "aoi."
Furthermore, do you know "Aojiru?" It's a GREEN powder you can put into water or milk.


What you have to remember is that the Japanese didn't used to differentiate between blue and green in the way that English does. Green to the Japanese is a shade of BLUE.

When they say 青 あお they actually mean 青, I think if you start telling Japanese people that they should use different words based on your cultural perception of color, you might find you have some problems. Have a look at the 3 kanji for あお 青 蒼 碧 (second 2 no longer in common usage).

What colour do you associate with unripe produce? Have another look at the meaning of 青, it might explain something.
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Re: orange and white lines

Postby mangakk on Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:05 pm

jessen100 wrote:im farmilliar with the white ones, but what are these orange ones that you speak of? something new?



Jessen, where in Yamanashi do you live? Even village roads are paved and so you should have seen orange ones or yellow poi (faded orange).
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Re: orange and white lines

Postby GETAK on Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:47 pm

What you have to remember is that the Japanese didn't used to differentiate between blue and green in the way that English does. Green to the Japanese is a shade of BLUE.

When they say 青 あお they actually mean 青, I think if you start telling Japanese people that they should use different words based on your cultural perception of color, you might find you have some problems. Have a look at the 3 kanji for あお 青 蒼 碧 (second 2 no longer in common usage).


Don't get me wrong, Tengu. I've long held the understanding that "青" has a much looser definition than the English word "blue." Or at least it used to.
I also have a kanji dictionary which defines "青" as green/blue.

However, I've had conversations with students and people I know(Japanese people), where I brought up the two examples I previously mentioned. My questions were met with "分からないなぁ" or similar answers.
My grandmother-in-law, an old Japanese woman, also wonders why lights which are "緑色" are called "青".
It seems to me, that the word 青 has come to be as finite as the English word "blue". At least to some.

By the way,
When they say 青 あお they actually mean 青

What was this supposed to mean?
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Re: orange and white lines

Postby TENGU on Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:05 pm

GETAK wrote:
By the way,
When they say 青 あお they actually mean 青

What was this supposed to mean?



It means they know what they are saying.



日本の道路交通法では、緑は「進んでもよい」という許可を意味しており、「進め」という強制ではない。黄色は緑から赤に切り替わる合間に一定時間表示するもので、「止まれ」である。ただし、停止位置に近づき過ぎていて、既に停止線を越えていて危険を伴う場合に限り進むことができる。赤は「進んではいけない」である。日本ではこの外に、「徐行して周りの交通に注意」を示す黄色点滅信号や、「一時停止」を示す赤色点滅信号がある。

日本では緑色表示を「緑信号」ではなく「青信号」と呼ぶ表現が社会的に定着してしまった。これは戦前、信号機が日本に初めて導入された際、マスメディアが「緑信号」を「青信号」と表現したことによるものであるが、背景としては一般的に赤・青・黄色が色の三原色としてよく理解されていることに加え、漢字の「青」は「green」と「blue」を厳密に区別しないが「green」を意味する語が多いため、日本人は「緑色」を「青色」と表現することがあるという点が挙げられる。第二次大戦までの法令では「緑信号」と記していたが、第二次大戦後の1947年に、法令でも「青信号」に変更した。近年では(青色発光ダイオード等で)意図的に青色にしている信号機も見かけられるようになった。

The answer to your question is in the above text.


青 also means unripe.
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Re: orange and white lines

Postby jessen100 on Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:37 pm

where did you get that anyways?
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Re: orange and white lines

Postby mangakk on Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:07 pm

Interesting one Tengu.
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Re: orange and white lines

Postby TENGU on Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:14 pm

wikipedia,

isn't japanese the second most used language on wikipedia? i forget....
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